Dragon Age: Inquisition - Making Cole more Spirit-like

Man, this quest was a mind messer for me. Gone back & forth between the
choices for a long while before settling on more human, kept asking myself
"Why is this better? Why do you feel this is right?" until I exhausted all
of my feelings on both of the choices and felt I was truly doing the right
thing. Man, this was a tough choice, I can't remember any that plagued me
this much. :p

What I think truly changed my mind is the nature of Cole's help of being
unseen and forgotten. It unnervingly reminds of mind-rape. Sure, from an
objective standpoint it is for good, but the people he gives the ideas to
think it's themselves, while it's another being guiding their fate, even if
it's something they want. Can't help but feel they should go through the
troubles for their happiness, just as Cole as a human would while trying to
help others feeling less effective. Who knows, they might even detest the
help if they ever were to find out the idea wasn't theirs in the first
place, I know I would feel uneasy knowing my fate was manipulated by
another being, even if it was for my own good.

The whole trying again if he messes up while wiping someone of their memory
feels somehow morally wrong too. Dunno, I remembered the first time I got
introduced to Cole's powers when I got this quest and this affected my
choice in the matter a great deal. Also, Cole feels like he's stuck on a
loop, like a robot programmed for other people's feelings when he's a
spirit. Being humanlike may feel more selfish, but staying a spirit seems
so sad to me because he will never be given credit, never remembered, even
if he's okay with that. He's extraordinary and no one will ever know.

Well that was some talking myself to accepting my choice I assume. :p Well
I could go on about how being Spirit-like has a lot of admirable qualities
to it too but it's already long enough, so I'll end it here. Needless to
say good job Bioware for making such a quest. :p

Cole sort of reminds me of... Thane o.o

This was a tough choice, they both were right but the way cole wanted to
kill that man...his anger...it was unsettling mostly because it was not
this spirit that suffered...it was the real cole...the spirit merely took
his appearance out his anger...would you encourage that anger?

We always have the audacity to change what doesn't suit us, but some things
shouldn't be changed, especially spirits, we should understand them yes,
but we should never change what they truly are.

So i made him a spirit, he seemed happy.

I nearly teared up during the scene where Cole read the ex-Templar's mind,
revealing that the man was just as much of a victim of the corrupt and
decadent White Spire as Cole was.

Man, I hope we get a story DLC that serves as a sequel to Asunder cause
right now, the White Spire might still be the shittiest Circle of Magi ever
now that Adrian is the First Enchanter there. If there's ever a Circle that
needs to change (or be destroyed), its the White Spire.

There is no real good or bad here.. Just how you view things.

We're all human so at first most of us think becoming a human is what will
make him more happy but we think this because we know what it is like being
human..

But we don't know what it is like being a spirit.. We choose to make him
human because that seems to most safe for us.. But is it really right to
change a beings nature because it feels to be the right thing to do.. For
you?

Varric believes being human makes you more happy then being a spirit..
While Solas thinks being a spirit with a clear purpose would make him more
happy for there is no true way for him to get hurt and he would stay true
to himself(feelings-wise anyway).

I personally think making him human is the more selfish choice because most
people pick that because they think it is sad how Cole is when he is a
spirit.

Cole himself isn't but YOU are feeling sorry for him... Anyway..

Cole just needed direction, he couldn't make a proper choice himself.

He will be happy either way.. Just with different reasons and it will
greatly impact his future for sure.

While Spirit interests me, I think I'll be going Human. I think he deserves
to help others, sure, but I think he can do that enough as Human and he
moreso deserves to have the connection to other mortals that he so much
desired after meeting Rhys.

Cole: *runs around café doing his thing*
Me: ... He has waaay too much energy.

The thing that I like about this quest is that no matter what you choose
there's a positive outcome and Cole ends up happy either way. 

14:50
Cole 'Gok' Wan everybody!

I never got the cutscene with her and Cole at the cafe...

Shit now I'm torn between making him human or more spirit-like. I had
originally intended to make him human but after watching this, oh god, I
don't know what to choose.

This was one of the best plotlines.

It's hilarious how many stupid people are buttblasted enough to complain
here how cole should be more human. If you check the comment section of the
more Human-like video, the massive butthurt is absent. Clearly, emotions
are more important to stupid people than anything.

Solas is a dick, I made Cole human, he ends up happier either way.

Damn this is such a tricky question...make the guy more like a person or
help him better connect to his nature as a spirit...so tricky, but if I
have to be honest, it probably is better to make him more spirit since that
is what he originally was.

People seem to get so caught up in the idea that Cole 'wants to be a
person'. I don't really see evidence of this... ever. All Cole EVER seems
to want is to help. Varric claims that he came into this world to be a
person... but Cole said himself that he came through because he WANTED TO
HELP the 'apostate Cole'. Solas claims that a spirit of compassion is
fragile when it's efforts are apparently wasted. Much as it pains me to say
it, Solas is right. The spirit's failure to help the apostate changed
him... so he became what the apostate wanted... A Cole without magical
power. "A spirit doesn't work through emotions, it embodies them." Think
about who Cole is... REALLY is. He wants to help people, more than anything
else, and as a human, he can't purely do that. Have you heard his party
banter? More often than not, he stresses your companions with their own
troublesome memories. If you make Cole more human, by nature of humanity,
he can't always get it right, and in that, he becomes capable of hurting
someone, and he loses the powers that allow people to 'forget'. That much
is evident in that one conversation with the woman where he attempts to
comfort her, then uses the 'wrong words' and makes her forget to try again.
Sure, humanity grants him 'understanding'... but does Cole really ever ASK
for understanding? He JUST wants to help. Sure, human Cole can have more
impact on every person, but spirit Cole can have fleeting impacts on so
many more. Maybe WE as people think granting a spirit a chance to embrace
humanity is the best choice, and something that he 'deserves', but in
reality, it's not something he directly asked for. Most people imagine
making Cole a human gives him a more 'fulfilling' life, but all along,
helping others was all the 'fulfillment' Cole ever claims to need.

Interesting making him more spirit but I don't know it feels... wrong. I
feel like he should be human its just... I don't know, this game is to
deep, but in my main play through he is more human and that feels right to
me.

You know, before the game came out I joked about Cole being an excellent
wingman because of his abilities... I didn't expect it to become canon.

What's interesting though, is that Cole is happy either way, which makes
you think... maybe it's just being on a set path, knowing what he wants to
become that makes him happy more than anything?